Protectionist party protest new mosque in Newcastle.
NEWCASTLE MUSLIM CENTRE MOVING TO ELERMORE VALE
March 10, 2010
A plan to build a mosque and community centre at Elermore Vale has drawn criticism from a newly-formed political group.
The centre is designed to cater for the area’s growing Muslim population, and would replace a mosque at Wallsend.







Well its back on the agenda, Elenmore Vale purposed Mosque. Newcastle Muslim Association submitted a development application for a $6,6450,000 Mosque, Community hall, Funeral parlour, Morgue and multi storey car park for 300 cars.
http://newcastlemosque.com/
http://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.a...../?a=117567
Then this article to explain who is actually running the Newcastle Muslim Association.
http://www.news.com.au/extremi.....1113187473
But wait! There is more controversy on this matter.
http://www.theherald.com.au/ne.....32214.aspx
http://www.theherald.com.au/ne.....32939.aspx
http://www.nbntv.com.au/index......-proposal/
there is already a mosque 5 minutes away in wallsend we dont need another one down the road if parking is a problem in wallsend buy a property and make it parking space we already have enough people in australia we dont need more to sit around home and get paid for it when we are out working hard and earning the money we deserve they have there own country so go live there i dont mean to sound racist but you have heaps of churches where you come from and you cant change people to be in your religion so dont make more churches in our country when there is already one 5 minutes away. you can just see it when people dont want them in your contry they will get into an argument and you can just see another war or even ANOTHER WORLD WAR
Being anti-Islam isn’t racist Princess. Islam isn’t a race, so don’t let anyone brow beat you. They have plenty of Saudi Arabian and other money for mosques and they don’t like to have to move too far. As they are supposed to pary five times per day (so they don’t forget their brainwashing), they want a mosque every KM or so to make sure nobody has a reason not to go there for more brainwashing.
In one country I read about in Europe, 40% of their welfare payments go to muslims immigrants who sit around breeding like flies and not working. Why would anyone encourage anyone to do that? We Western, civilised people are bloody stupid and need to wake up.
I love it when the dirty muzzies pull the race card on a religious issue, they will stoop to any level!!!
Not only do we need to protest about the mosque, we need to prevent Islamization of Australia at any level. Who will be Australia’s Geert Wilders and speak on our behalf?
This is ridiculous, I believe Australia should stop letting these Terrorist Attackers in the making into our country… You want Australia blown up let more of them come here.. One towel head with ten wifes and fifty children isn’t really what I call normal.. Needs to be stopped. Don’t allow a school being built near us for more of these idiot keep them in sydney
say no to mosques in australia and no to muslims
Professor you are completely wrong. The only violence that has occurred through immigration is that which is conducted by the first peoples of the country. They usually do things like the Nazis did through re-asserting "the nations" pride and crap like that. It exactly the same as the APP, as far as I'm seeing.
Ypou take a small minority and then blame the entire community for its actions. With that same logic Hitler managed to kill millions of people, and with the same logic you will do the same.
To Dean, Crimson and Macca
You are complete fools. You are being laughed at by your Muslim “brothers”. Every time they see your “patriotic” comments, they rub their hands with glee…another couple of “converts” to our cause.
More supporters of our Sharia way of life, beheadings, stoning, wife beatings and of course, terrorism…as even a fool can see that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by …er….Muslims!!! You evidently support this murderous hateful religion with your traitorous ramblings….I wish I had you guys in my platoon during the Vietnam war…then perhaps it was your fathers who were supplying the Viet Cong with cigarettes “to our comrades from your brothers of the Monash University” marked on the packet..
You people and your ilk, make my stomach turn.
Multi-culturalism is an experiment that has been tried throughout the ages, and it has been proven, via history, that is works for the more dominant, war-like and single minded race. In other works one culture eventually takes over another.
This is not being ignorant, it’s the opposite. It’s using history to predict the future, and the future of Elermore Vale will be the same as the differing enclaves in Sydney and Melbourne, of ethnic cultures. This in itself is not a problem, but when it comes to a culture such as Islam that is totally different to that of secular western values.
Do you want to live next to a family that all of the females have had their clitorus and vulva removed? Female Genital Mutilation is illegal here in Australia but it is not only continuing but increasing at an alarming rate.
Those that want to find out more about these poor girls being sent overseas, in most cases, and sexually assaulted, and mutilated; head to a search engine and be ready to be horrified.
Elermore Vale. Your next.
I’m shocked that such small minded ignorant bigots are living in my community (E-Vale)
and I don’t mean the muslims
If people claim that if you migrate to Australia you must shed your old life, then why should we have allowed any religion here? Why not ban them all?
2,000 years of Christian violence should have been a good enough reason.
Or perhaps people have a problem with God?
Guess which state has the most number of convicted criminals yet the one of the smallest populations of Muslims in Australia… coincidence?
If the APP persists in pushing the anti-Muslim 'barrow then it will suffer the same fate as One Nation.
Regards,
Crimson
Yes, Crimson. Anyone who comes here as a refugee should shed the old life. If not, why become a refugee in a first place? Those who come here and not assimilate are not true refugees- they should be sent back. When I have arrived to Australia as a refugee, I begged to accept me, I wanted to become a part of a western world, freedom and democracy. I wanted to forget (shed) what was before – because it was horrible. People in question are not refugees- they came to conquer. I have heard other "refugees" loughing at people like you and Dean. They had fun fooling you. I know other refugees – real ones, they run away from their countries fully accepting the supremacy of western system.
Euro,
The point i made was, you can not expect anyone arrival in Australia to suddenly shed thier past and traditions when those who populate Australia now largely chose not to do so. White Western Christians did not become Aboriginals upon arriving. The hypocracy of the assertion or demand that those who come here now become a version of us when we ourselves refused to become like those who were here before is not lost in the transaltion.
There are many ethnic groups in Australia, some of which are European who flat out refuse to adopt to the Australian Culture for many reasons, the plain simple truth is that much of the Australian Culture is repugnant to even Europeans and much of Australia's Behavioural Culture would not even be tolerated in the US of A.
it is safer to walk the streets of Tehran than Brisbane and people here and elsewhere bang on about how Islam is an inferior culture…
Regards,
Crimson
Re: Tehran. Yes, it is safer to walk the streets of TEHRAN than Brisbane, as long as one does not talk anything against ayatollah. Otherwise, one will be brutally tortured and killed in the nearest police station. I know the drill, believe me.
Re: multiculturalism. I am a devout multiculturalist AND support APP. What is multiculturalism? 1. I speak with the foreign accent and everyone is OK with that. 2. I exchange cooking recipes with my mates and we all enjoy this experience 3. I discuss culture, art and laws of different countries with my Aussie mates and we enjoy it 4. I do not watch footy and drink beer and all my mates are OK with that. 5. I am OK with people colour of skin – red, purple, black and even unfashionable white. 6. I am OK someone wearing headscarf or burka as long as it is not contrary to common security procedures THAT is multiculturalism. I am multiculturalist.
What is not a MULTICULTURALISM. 1. One group of people engage in well orchestrated effort to achieve majority in population and install repugnant medieval Sharia Law in Australia 2. One group of people demand separate toilets at La trobe university 3. One group of people demand building of their place of worship despite knowing that it would impede on rights of others in the area (value of houses, nuisance etc.) 4. One group of people produce most of the terrorists and when they get sentenced for that, claim that they are being prosecuted because of their religion. 5. One specific group of people teaches their children to despise infidels, live in enclaves and have allegiance to imam, not to Australia That is not multiculturalism. That is stealth conquest. I will fight that along with my Aussie mates.
5, So they want seperate toilets? Big deal… Heck i’d like to have my own personal toilet everywhere i went considering the normal state of public toilets.
As for religious observence, all religions place God before State especially Jews yet here you are not declaring that you will fight thier enclavist attitudes, why is that?
I also know many Muslims who can speak better English than i can and remember all the verses to the National Anthem along with knowing how many points are on the Federation Star, where it is and why.
Can you or your “Aussie Mates”?
Regards,
Crimson
You do not get it, do you? Who cares about Jews, they are not going to conquer Australia and establish kosher law or whatever they have there. It is Muslims that want Sharia for me and you. I conclude my discussion with you as it is pretty pointless. It is the same as I was talking about benefits of eating oranges and you would contradict me saying that Greenland's depositions on Nikel are rich.
Euro you are not making any sense, and when your comments are readable they are hypocritical.
1 One group of people engage in well orchestrated effort to achieve majority in population and install repugnant medieval Sharia Law in Australia — Um….can you even give an example. They have only suggested it. It is the same as crazy fundementalist Chirstians arguing for homosexuals to become outcasts!
2 One group of people demand separate toilets at La trobe university – who cares!!
3 One group of people demand building of their place of worship despite knowing that it would impede on rights of others in the area — Well alright the n are you going to pull down every other 'place of worship'. By saying what you just did you are asserting that people should not be allowed to be religious depending on how they pray and which you prefer!
4. One group of people produce most of the terrorists and when they get sentenced for that, claim that they are being prosecuted because of their religion. — Well, jack', how about WW1 or WW2 or Vietnam or Iraq War. I could easily say they were started by Christian people who used their religion as a support. How about medieval history also, it doesn't even compare to Islamic History of the same time – Inquisition killing hundreds of thousands!! All the terrorist attacks in the world haven't killed as many people as the Catholic Church did back then!!
5. One specific group of people teaches their children to despise infidels, live in enclaves — Are you talking about extreme right wing Aussie groups like Pauline Hanson and even APP to an extent??!!!
Anyone else (except macca and crimson) think that I make no sense?
Macca, you are intelligent, brilliant and well educated…ENEMY. Only enemy can defend the socio-political ideology that has a very definite goal of destroying the civilisation itself.
You are especially good in planting the seed of doubt. I had a doubt too and went to check the facts to:
http://www.islammonitor.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Yes, I am convinced that One group of people engages in well orchestrated effort to achieve majority in population and install repugnant medieval Sharia Law in Australia and all over the world.
Also, thank you for pointing out to my poor writing style and grammar. English is not my first language – I did not speak a word of English 10 years ago. I agree, I have to work on that.
Macca , Muslims can build as many mosques as they want……………………….as long its in a Muslim country where they belong! . The majority of us don't want Muslims here so love Aussie and our way of life or leave!…. we didnt ask them to settle here. By the way can you build a Christian Church in Iran? …….. I rest my case.
It's not freedom if the creation of the mosque is against the law, and if the citizens are concern with their way of life.
Ill not ask you this question Macca since I do not believe that you would give an honest answer but is there any person out there that owns a house in a residential suburb, who would want ANY large building built next to their property. Or have their area turned into a meeting ground where traffic, congestion and parking are all stretched to the limit.
Then we have the housing professionals in the area who have stated quite matter of factly that the property value of the HOMES within a 1 km radius WILL decrease dramatically as has been seen in Sydney and Melbourne suburbs where mosques have been built.
I can see macca that you have no empathy towards the residents of Elermore Vale. That you are not concerned with their worries. As I am pretty sure you do not live their. But we at the APP are their for them and their concerns. To help them through this worrying time as much as we are able.
Exactly Nathan. I have heard that living next to a mosque can be no fun at all as Muslim worshippers have a tendency to worship in the street when the mosque is full. They'll also park their cars in the driveways of nearby residents. Access for residents to and from their homes can then become a problem on Fridays and Islamic feast days.
You are spot on, Black Knight.
I was recently in Canberra and the Canberra Mosque (right at the foot of Parliment House incidently!) was swarming with our bearded brothers….and you should of seen the cars!!
They were parked right on street corners, across driveways, on beautifully manicured Canberra lawns – everywhere!
It was extremely inconvenient for other motorists as they could not get through; but was was worst was the fact that most of the worshippers (mainly men) were just walking straight out in front of motorist, as if the rd was a walkway and completely disrespecting and flouting the law and common sense.
What a joke!!
Thanks for the confirmation, OzPatriot. Your example of Muslim traffic problems at the Canberra mosque is the clash of civilizations at its most basic. This kind of thing happens in other Western nations too, Moslems praying on public footpaths and traffic islands. As they are supremacists they believe it is their right. Challenge them and you’ll have a fight on your hands.
Thats what i, along with the APP, hope to do.
If you want to fight them please join us whenever you are able
Its freedom and capitalism to create a Mosque. All you guys are so racist and discriminatory – there is no "moderate Muslim" – yeh sure mate, have you an 88 tattooed to your arm?
More then I can say for you who are merely taking the major party line of "Tough Shit".
Thank you macca you have just shown the good people out there exactly what Australia is up against, from within our own ranks.
Macca, APP is not a Hiterite party. What you don't seem to realize is that Islam is a religion, not a race. So, being against Islam is not racist in any way. It is just common sense given that the religion is hostile to Australian values and the Australian way of life.
I do not understand why we should even allow them to build mosques in this country.
Every Australian needs to protest with passion against islamic growth of any kind.
Lets show them that their kind are not welcome here.
Do everything you can to stagnate and eradicate islam in all its forms; regardless of how 'moderate' they seem.
Remember that the moderate ones are just biding their time until they are strong enough to subjugate.
NO MORE MOSQUES
This is how they start their 'infiltration' – waving the olive branch which hides the knife they'll use to stab us in the back once they've bred themselves a new army…
Here! Here!
@RomanGoddess
Very well put.
It makes you wonder if any of the moderate supporters of multiculturalism and islam (read the likes of Crimson) have seen the effects this type of policy has had on other nations..
The proof is in the pudding, argue for tolerance all you want, however 40 years from now when our children are a minority in there own society this type of retoric will mean nothing.
This topic is gaining monentum with secular australians (regardless of there background)it is simply becoming to hard to ignore!
With News articles like this:
http://www.news.com.au/extremi.....1113187473
Where Muslims are being groomed by outside influences, one can assume that the Wahhabi sect that runs Newcastle Muslim Assc, if left unchecked and if this proposed Mosque is built. The area will see the beginnings of a terrorist factory. There are lots of other places in the outer suburbs of Newcastle to build. But after seeing the Elenmore Vale area and the close proximity to a very expensive housing residential area. One can speculate that these Muslims have designs on occupying the area in the long term.
The new world must not entertain or bow to any god, but only to the people and the earth we live on. To keep this Greatest (G) Overall (O) Deception (D) ideal is blatant insanity and infectious to man and woman kind, period!
I feel like the small minority now, imagine when my children grow up and how they will feel, it breaks my heart!
she's saying that to the camera but we all know what she really wants to say, but ya gotta smile and be nice or be labeled a rascist and crucified for it, just as Pauline Hanson was
People who move to this country should assimilate and not impose their culture and beliefs upon the rest of us. Wasn’t it the real reason to come here in the first place to START A NEW WAY OF LIFE? So why carry the OLD BAGGAGE?
For some of these people, of course, it is not so easy for them to give up their cultural "baggage". Hence we need an immigration programme that recognizes this and selects potential immigrants only on the basis of whether they can and will assimiliate.
in 5 years australians will just be a small monority without any rights! stuff multiculterism! muslims are over taking!!!
That's what the plan is. It's finally taken you this time to work that out? Australians already are the minority because their so called democratic voices and opinions are squashed by the multiculturalist concept of racism.
Yes, they are. Do something about it! Learn about the enemy and contact members of parliament, tell your friends. Don’t give up without a fight.
I wonder if the Nazi"s or the KKK were to build a place of worship in the area if she would be so welcoming? They bring food over, they are a great bunch of people! SO WERE THE TROJAN'S. She will be saying different things when they do something she doesn't like.
Trojans? I think you mean the Greeks.
No mosque, put a stop to muslim expansion. And remember, there is no such thing as a moderate muslim.