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> <channel><title>Comments on: The &#8216;carbon footprint&#8217; of Iceland&#8217;s Eyjafjallajokull volcano</title> <atom:link href="http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/</link> <description>Australian Protectionists - Australians protecting Australia</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 08:33:09 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: SaveTheAustralianPeople</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65667</link> <dc:creator>SaveTheAustralianPeople</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65667</guid> <description>No worries!&quot;My job here appears to be done.&quot;
Wasn&#039;t that a quote from a superhero or something similar?
(Looks out window to see Dave zooming away, cape flapping in the breeze).:-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries!</p><p>&#8220;My job here appears to be done.&#8221;<br
/> Wasn&#8217;t that a quote from a superhero or something similar?<br
/> (Looks out window to see Dave zooming away, cape flapping in the breeze).</p><p> <img
src='http://www.protectionist.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65562</link> <dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:11:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65562</guid> <description>I appreciate that you have clarified that this is a humourous report. The very subtle use of the number 42 was indeed hillarious to the extreme. The comments below show that most people didn&#039;t get the joke however including myself so thank you for this follow up post. You have provided some really good links too.
Although the New Scientist report did turn out to be second from the top on the google search I suggested, I admit that I may be lazy. I was reading the comments. I new the story was a lie so wanted people to know so. That is all. My job here appears to be done.(FYI - Expecting to debate you, I was going to attack your reference to the expert in mineral deposits Ian Pilmer. The fact he does not support peer revue, and claiming that a whole field of science consisting of 1000&#039;s of scientists around the world dedicating their lives to discovering the truth about their particular niche of knowledge are all simply wrong? Then I was going to relate him to &quot;Lord&quot; Monckton and the fact that he is not a lord, is not a scientist, has not won a nobel prize, has not discovered a cure for aids, and has no expertise in climate change science. I was going to mention the loads of money they are both earning travelling the world spreading their lies. Then I was going to highlight the desperation of the climate change skeptics trying to find any scraps of evidence that may appear to support their argument and having only out of date debunked arguments from Pilmer and Monckton to choose from. Possibly mention Bolt and Jones here as well. I was going to relate how climate skeptics are now begining to change their arguments to fit the new truth just as religions have done for eons. Then I was going to finish off trying to describe the vast bulk of data that is being recorded by numerous experiments around the world and in space every month, the resulting scientific papers that are published for peer review and the greater accuracy in predictions and calculations that are constantly adding to our knowledge...but thank god I dont need to mention all of that now. Have a nice day and I wish this party success as long as it doesnt spread lies.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that you have clarified that this is a humourous report. The very subtle use of the number 42 was indeed hillarious to the extreme. The comments below show that most people didn&#8217;t get the joke however including myself so thank you for this follow up post. You have provided some really good links too.<br
/> Although the New Scientist report did turn out to be second from the top on the google search I suggested, I admit that I may be lazy. I was reading the comments. I new the story was a lie so wanted people to know so. That is all. My job here appears to be done.</p><p>(FYI &#8211; Expecting to debate you, I was going to attack your reference to the expert in mineral deposits Ian Pilmer. The fact he does not support peer revue, and claiming that a whole field of science consisting of 1000&#8242;s of scientists around the world dedicating their lives to discovering the truth about their particular niche of knowledge are all simply wrong? Then I was going to relate him to &#8220;Lord&#8221; Monckton and the fact that he is not a lord, is not a scientist, has not won a nobel prize, has not discovered a cure for aids, and has no expertise in climate change science. I was going to mention the loads of money they are both earning travelling the world spreading their lies. Then I was going to highlight the desperation of the climate change skeptics trying to find any scraps of evidence that may appear to support their argument and having only out of date debunked arguments from Pilmer and Monckton to choose from. Possibly mention Bolt and Jones here as well. I was going to relate how climate skeptics are now begining to change their arguments to fit the new truth just as religions have done for eons. Then I was going to finish off trying to describe the vast bulk of data that is being recorded by numerous experiments around the world and in space every month, the resulting scientific papers that are published for peer review and the greater accuracy in predictions and calculations that are constantly adding to our knowledge&#8230;but thank god I dont need to mention all of that now. Have a nice day and I wish this party success as long as it doesnt spread lies.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SaveTheAustralianPeople</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65557</link> <dc:creator>SaveTheAustralianPeople</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:57:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65557</guid> <description>You&#039;re wrong.&quot;&lt;em&gt;you have all ready backed down claiming this story was all simply a joke&lt;/em&gt;&quot;
-- I haven&#039;t &quot;all ready [already] backed down&quot;, because the very first post I made on this article was pointing out that this post was clearly humourous, which it is in several places. So I haven&#039;t &quot;backed down&quot;, have I?What I did do was post some links that queried the accuracy of the article that you got all het up about, because you seemed too lazy to do so.&quot;Group hug&quot; and so on is clearly tongue in cheek. As are other parts of it.Didn&#039;t anyone else pick up on the author&#039;s usage of &quot;42&quot; as being a reference to the &quot;Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything&quot; from The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide to the Galaxy? I mean, c&#039;mon.It is sooooo obvious that the author is out to poke fun at people. It probably started off as an email that went viral, but some people like you take it seriously (fancy that, hey) without seeing that it is clearly tongue in cheek.So, as I first said, chillax dude.&quot;Save Australia&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re wrong.</p><p>&#8220;<em>you have all ready backed down claiming this story was all simply a joke</em>&#8221;<br
/> &#8211; I haven&#8217;t &#8220;all ready [already] backed down&#8221;, because the very first post I made on this article was pointing out that this post was clearly humourous, which it is in several places. So I haven&#8217;t &#8220;backed down&#8221;, have I?</p><p>What I did do was post some links that queried the accuracy of the article that you got all het up about, because you seemed too lazy to do so.</p><p>&#8220;Group hug&#8221; and so on is clearly tongue in cheek. As are other parts of it.</p><p>Didn&#8217;t anyone else pick up on the author&#8217;s usage of &#8220;42&#8243; as being a reference to the &#8220;Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything&#8221; from The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy? I mean, c&#8217;mon.</p><p>It is sooooo obvious that the author is out to poke fun at people. It probably started off as an email that went viral, but some people like you take it seriously (fancy that, hey) without seeing that it is clearly tongue in cheek.</p><p>So, as I first said, chillax dude.</p><p>&#8220;Save Australia&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65556</link> <dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 07:06:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65556</guid> <description>I&#039;m not here to prove anything. I&#039;m just saying this story is bullshit because it is. No use even trying to prove anything here, you have all ready backed down claiming this story was all simply a joke! That&#039;s one of the standard come backs from someone who&#039;s faith is being challenged. So why aren&#039;t the comments full of LOL&#039;s? It&#039;s up to you to do the research. I&#039;m not going to re-read 52+ issues of New Scientist Magazine so I can post the page and paragraph number to a quote suitable to your liking. I suggested you search &quot;First carbon negative volcano&quot;. Oh look at that! I just googled it and a related New Scientist article appeared second from the top. Gee that was difficult. :[
I gave you the Youtube channel because if you are truly interested in learning the facts about climate change, you will watch them all. I bet ya Jones and Bolt haven&#039;t. The guy that makes those videos gos to the source documents of both sides and debunks all of the climate denial arguments in simple easy to digest terms and supplies all the links to the source documents. Funny thing is this story has no original source documentation. Fancy that hey.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not here to prove anything. I&#8217;m just saying this story is bullshit because it is. No use even trying to prove anything here, you have all ready backed down claiming this story was all simply a joke! That&#8217;s one of the standard come backs from someone who&#8217;s faith is being challenged. So why aren&#8217;t the comments full of LOL&#8217;s? It&#8217;s up to you to do the research. I&#8217;m not going to re-read 52+ issues of New Scientist Magazine so I can post the page and paragraph number to a quote suitable to your liking. I suggested you search &#8220;First carbon negative volcano&#8221;. Oh look at that! I just googled it and a related New Scientist article appeared second from the top. Gee that was difficult. :[<br
/> I gave you the Youtube channel because if you are truly interested in learning the facts about climate change, you will watch them all. I bet ya Jones and Bolt haven&#8217;t. The guy that makes those videos gos to the source documents of both sides and debunks all of the climate denial arguments in simple easy to digest terms and supplies all the links to the source documents. Funny thing is this story has no original source documentation. Fancy that hey.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SaveTheAustralianPeople</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65533</link> <dc:creator>SaveTheAustralianPeople</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:12:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65533</guid> <description>This article should have been clearly marked as humourous, as there are people here taking it totally seriously.Or it should be deleted.Here are some articles that counter what this article says (especially the top 2 or 3):&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/19/eyjafjallajokull-volcano-climate-carbon-emissions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iceland volcano causes fall in carbon emissions as eruption grounds aircraft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/climate.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Volcanic Gases and Climate Change Overview&lt;/a&gt; (look at &quot;Volcanic versus anthropogenic CO2 emissions&quot;)&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/planes-or-volcano/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Planes or Volcano?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://eobadmin.gsfc.nasa.gov/Features/Volcano/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Volcanoes and climate changes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1462&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eyjafjallajökull volcano on Iceland erupts&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article should have been clearly marked as humourous, as there are people here taking it totally seriously.</p><p>Or it should be deleted.</p><p>Here are some articles that counter what this article says (especially the top 2 or 3):</p><p><a
href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/19/eyjafjallajokull-volcano-climate-carbon-emissions" rel="nofollow">Iceland volcano causes fall in carbon emissions as eruption grounds aircraft</a></p><p><a
href="http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/climate.php" rel="nofollow">Volcanic Gases and Climate Change Overview</a> (look at &#8220;Volcanic versus anthropogenic CO2 emissions&#8221;)</p><p><a
href="http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/planes-or-volcano/" rel="nofollow">Planes or Volcano?</a></p><p><a
href="http://eobadmin.gsfc.nasa.gov/Features/Volcano/" rel="nofollow">Volcanoes and climate changes</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1462" rel="nofollow">Eyjafjallajökull volcano on Iceland erupts</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SaveTheAustralianPeople</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65532</link> <dc:creator>SaveTheAustralianPeople</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:04:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65532</guid> <description>Since you haven&#039;t posted any links to back up what you are saying, I have done so and will post some for you.You still should post the link to the article you were talking about.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you haven&#8217;t posted any links to back up what you are saying, I have done so and will post some for you.</p><p>You still should post the link to the article you were talking about.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SaveTheAustralianPeople</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65528</link> <dc:creator>SaveTheAustralianPeople</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 00:40:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65528</guid> <description>Oh fancy that, your reply was useless.You provide no proof of what you&#039;re saying. A vague &quot;I first read it in a New Scientist issue&quot; isn&#039;t actually proof or a link to an actual article - you do know the difference, right?And giving a link to a YouTube page of 64 videos is not proof of a point either - it&#039;s just a bunch of videos on a wide range of climate change issues. It&#039;s like someone giving you a link to a climate sceptics site and saying &quot;See, told you so&quot;.Interestingly, Ian Pilmer says &quot;Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day.&quot;
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/29320.html
Surely there must be stuff out there to counter his argument, so why don&#039;t you give a link to something like that?But yeah, it was obviously a humourous email, e.g. &quot;sitting up til midnight to finish your kid’s “The Green Revolution” science project&quot;: yep, that&#039;s humour.Most of the articles on this site are obviously not humourous, most are serious and give references. This one doesn&#039;t have any references re. the info in it, so that&#039;s probably a bit of a clue right there.It does make sense that an active volcano releases lots of carbon into the atmosphere; &quot;How much?&quot; and &quot;What is the carbon footprint?&quot; are the pertinent questions.What is the carbon footprint of the Icelandic volcano eruption? Or of the other volcanic eruptions? I don&#039;t know, nor have I ever pretended to know - what I do know is that the article was funny.If you think you&#039;re right, then just post the proof. I&#039;m willing to read what you say, if you&#039;re willing to back up what you say.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh fancy that, your reply was useless.</p><p>You provide no proof of what you&#8217;re saying. A vague &#8220;I first read it in a New Scientist issue&#8221; isn&#8217;t actually proof or a link to an actual article &#8211; you do know the difference, right?</p><p>And giving a link to a YouTube page of 64 videos is not proof of a point either &#8211; it&#8217;s just a bunch of videos on a wide range of climate change issues. It&#8217;s like someone giving you a link to a climate sceptics site and saying &#8220;See, told you so&#8221;.</p><p>Interestingly, Ian Pilmer says &#8220;Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day.&#8221;<br
/> <a
href="http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/29320.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/29320.html</a><br
/> Surely there must be stuff out there to counter his argument, so why don&#8217;t you give a link to something like that?</p><p>But yeah, it was obviously a humourous email, e.g. &#8220;sitting up til midnight to finish your kid’s “The Green Revolution” science project&#8221;: yep, that&#8217;s humour.</p><p>Most of the articles on this site are obviously not humourous, most are serious and give references. This one doesn&#8217;t have any references re. the info in it, so that&#8217;s probably a bit of a clue right there.</p><p>It does make sense that an active volcano releases lots of carbon into the atmosphere; &#8220;How much?&#8221; and &#8220;What is the carbon footprint?&#8221; are the pertinent questions.</p><p>What is the carbon footprint of the Icelandic volcano eruption? Or of the other volcanic eruptions? I don&#8217;t know, nor have I ever pretended to know &#8211; what I do know is that the article was funny.</p><p>If you think you&#8217;re right, then just post the proof. I&#8217;m willing to read what you say, if you&#8217;re willing to back up what you say.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65492</link> <dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 13:21:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65492</guid> <description>Oh fancy that. This story is suddenly just a joke now. Well it was created and spread around the world as well as posted on this very websight to spread a lie and support an agenda. You weren&#039;t even willing to try defending it.
I first read it in a New Scientist issue, and then again in the New Scientist 2010 overview. Just google first carbon negative volcano.
If you want the truth on climate change check &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=029130BFDC78FA33&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; He gives all the sources with links.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh fancy that. This story is suddenly just a joke now. Well it was created and spread around the world as well as posted on this very websight to spread a lie and support an agenda. You weren&#8217;t even willing to try defending it.<br
/> I first read it in a New Scientist issue, and then again in the New Scientist 2010 overview. Just google first carbon negative volcano.<br
/> If you want the truth on climate change check <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=029130BFDC78FA33" rel="nofollow"> He gives all the sources with links.</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SaveTheAustralianPeople</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65484</link> <dc:creator>SaveTheAustralianPeople</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:00:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65484</guid> <description>Chillax dude.
This was originally a humourous email that was going around.
Although what is says does make some sense.As for...
&quot;TOTAL FABRICATED LIES ... The grounded aircraft around the world would have released much more pollution then what was released by Volcano Eyjafjallajökull&quot;
...that sounds like some pretty interesting information there, please post the links to the science journal that published this info.Or were you just telling us some &quot;TOTAL FABRICATED LIES&quot; ???:-)&quot;Save Australia&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chillax dude.<br
/> This was originally a humourous email that was going around.<br
/> Although what is says does make some sense.</p><p>As for&#8230;<br
/> &#8220;TOTAL FABRICATED LIES &#8230; The grounded aircraft around the world would have released much more pollution then what was released by Volcano Eyjafjallajökull&#8221;<br
/> &#8230;that sounds like some pretty interesting information there, please post the links to the science journal that published this info.</p><p>Or were you just telling us some &#8220;TOTAL FABRICATED LIES&#8221; ???</p><p> <img
src='http://www.protectionist.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>&#8220;Save Australia&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave</title><link>http://www.protectionist.net/2010/05/16/the-carbon-footprint-of-icelands-eyjafjallajokull-volcano/#comment-65454</link> <dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.protectionist.net/?p=1715#comment-65454</guid> <description>TOTAL FABRICATED LIES!!!  The Icelandic volcano was the worlds first carbon negative eruption. The grounded aircraft around the world would have released much more pollution then what was released by Volcano Eyjafjallajökull . Do some real research before spreading your lies to all your ignorant friends.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOTAL FABRICATED LIES!!!  The Icelandic volcano was the worlds first carbon negative eruption. The grounded aircraft around the world would have released much more pollution then what was released by Volcano Eyjafjallajökull . Do some real research before spreading your lies to all your ignorant friends.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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